In a new interview on Camas Books and Infoshop’s podcast Seeds of Revolution, C4SS Technical Coordinator William Gillis talks about the differences between liberal and radical abolitionism and corruption of radical prison abolition by liberal nonprofits. Check it out!

William Gillis is a second generation anarchist activist who studies high energy theoretical physics and has written extensively on the politics of abolition and transformative justice. Check out William’s website Human Iterations which hosts a ton of their writing, and order William’s new book, Did The Science Wars Take Place?: The Political & Ethical Stakes of Radical Realism.