Kevin Carson, Senior Fellow and Karl Hess Chair in Social Theory at Center for a Stateless Society (C4SS), was interviewed May 11 by Kevin Barrett on Truth Jihad, American Freedom Radio. The interview takes Carson’s column “The Normalization of Dystopia” as its starting point. But it also includes extensive discussion of counter-institution building, and technologies of decentralization like micro-manufacturing and permaculture, as tools for evading state repression. You can listen to the interview on mp3 here, on the second half of the program.