Comments on: Their Conduct Has No Place in a Civil Society

By: the truth

the truth — Sat, 12 Apr 2014 15:43:23 +0000

so in your so-called civilized society the armed violence is only allowed state side?
because that is exactly what's going on here, any threats or violence in response to this is clearly in self defense

By: ravious

ravious — Wed, 19 Aug 2009 16:10:25 +0000

This is because most people don't know that the FEDERAL RESERVE BANK is not owned, operated, or in any way regulated by the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. The Federal Reserve Bank is owned by private bankers, who were contracted by the Federal Government to provide the currency for this nation.

Your Federal Income Tax goes literally into the hands of International Bankers to pay the debt of them providing the currency. You work for roughly 4 months a year as a slave, for no wages, to pay these bankers for their services.

For every dollar that the federal reserve bank creates out of nothing but paper and ink and LOANS to the federal government, interest is charged on that dollar, so when it comes time to pay back the loan, you owe that initial dollar value + the interest owed on the loan. So where do you get the money to pay the interest? By more loans.. with more interest..

This is why we will never get out of debt.. Its impossible.. Simply Impossible.. Whats most shocking about this is.. Every American has been enslaved and expected to try to work off this debt that is impossible to pay… The easiest way to enslave a nation is by making them think their free..

By: Brad Spangler

Brad Spangler — Wed, 19 Aug 2009 14:26:40 +0000

@Longtiem — re: free market — Your comparison, as written, is between two sets of people and their methods. Comparing one set of people themselves ("government") to the methods used by the other ("money") is thus not a rational comparison. That's an apples and oranges sort of thing.

Doing so doesn't make an actual point but, instead, persuades only by means of vague emotional associations with the words used.

Government is people and so is the market. Peaceful exchange of value for value (often but not always money) is the method used by the market. The definitive method of government is force or the threat of it. So, no, replacing death threats (government methods) with voluntary cooperation (market methods) does not and can not, by definition, be a form of slavery.

By: Longtiem

Longtiem — Wed, 19 Aug 2009 14:04:54 +0000

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sixteenth_Amendment_…

You people are all idiots. I am as close to minimalist as it can get, but to argue that it is not legal is the worst argument of all of them. And yes, I agree that threatening people with guns and explosives has no place in a civilized society. Peaceful resistance yes, armed violence no.

Also, the idea that a free market infringes no ones rights is silly. All it does is replace government with money. Placing the importance of money above all else just institutes a different kind of slavery than owed to the government.

By: PECB

PECB — Fri, 17 Jul 2009 12:39:57 +0000

It is interesting to note that not once has the IRS ever actually shown the law, in black & white, that says privately employed American Citizens owe this thing called "Income Tax. . . . Nor has any court/judge, attorney, or tax professional.

By: Alex R. Knight III

Alex R. Knight III — Fri, 17 Jul 2009 11:44:17 +0000

Michael, with all due respect, one does not show up in a star chamber to contest the very lifeblood of the parasites running that star chamber. It's been done any number of times, and more often than not, with poor results to say the least. There is nothing civilized about any of that. The free market is civilized, and provides many rules everyone must follow if they wish to succeed and prosper, yet no one's liberty is violated by a market. Finally, the idea that "someone is always dominant" is a neanderthal mentality. Governments survive because of social and psychological conditioning — not because there's some genetic flaw in the human brain. Hitler tried selling that bullshit, and look at what happened. People dumped his insane theories by breaking free of sophistry and psy-conditioning. Now, humanity just has to go the rest of the way, and hasn't already because the nea-sayers like you have heretofore simply outnumbered the sane and rational among us. Now, we're working to change that…and slowly getting results.

By: Michael Bindner

Michael Bindner — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 13:49:03 +0000

In civilized society, if you have a point to make about the legitimacy of taxation, you show up and make it at the hearing. If you want to have an uncivilized society then you can ignore these things. Civilization means civil government and rules that everyone follows. If you don’t like the regime, you don’t have to live within its borders. To say that laws are simply a creature of politicians is sophistry and fairy tale anarchism.

Living in fairy tales does not help get rid of government.

As far as keeping arms with the specific purpose of resisting the government – that’s really not civilized either. That’s just plain stupid – more fairly tale anarchism. One could not get away with such bullshit in pre-Columbian society either. Someone is always dominant. Keeping weapons to resist them may invite their notice – especially if you owe them what ever payment they desire to leave you alone.

Anyone who thinks that the human species does not have inbred domination-submission behaviors is not paying attention, or just plain stupid, like Mr. & Mrs. Brown.