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		<title>By: Marja Erwin</title>
		<link>http://c4ss.org/content/15457/comment-page-1#comment-156293</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Marja Erwin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2013 01:10:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve been attacked and beaten by neo-Nazis. Beaten unconscious. Inaction in the face of ongoing violence, including beatings, bashings, rapes, and murders, enables violence. It&#039;s a good question what the best action is, but inaction isn&#039;t it. 
 
And the only relevant differences between Westboro and the neo-Nazis seem to be (1) that they only want to exterminate lgbt people where the neo-Nazis want to exterminate political opponents, Jews, Gypsies, various other ethnic minorities, and lgbt people too, (2) that they aren&#039;t as numerous, and (3) that they have better lawyers. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;ve been attacked and beaten by neo-Nazis. Beaten unconscious. Inaction in the face of ongoing violence, including beatings, bashings, rapes, and murders, enables violence. It&#039;s a good question what the best action is, but inaction isn&#039;t it. </p>
<p>And the only relevant differences between Westboro and the neo-Nazis seem to be (1) that they only want to exterminate lgbt people where the neo-Nazis want to exterminate political opponents, Jews, Gypsies, various other ethnic minorities, and lgbt people too, (2) that they aren&#039;t as numerous, and (3) that they have better lawyers. </p>
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		<title>By: @nullvoid9</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2013 17:31:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s the moralistic aspects that worry me. Fine, oppose WBC, but still. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#039;s the moralistic aspects that worry me. Fine, oppose WBC, but still. </p>
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		<title>By: Harvey Dent.</title>
		<link>http://c4ss.org/content/15457/comment-page-1#comment-156175</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Harvey Dent.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2012 13:13:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;We recognize you as serious opponents, and do not expect our campaign to terminate in a short period of time. Attrition is our weapon, and we will waste no time, money, effort, and enjoyment, in tearing your resolve into pieces, as with exposing the incongruity of your distorted faith.&quot; 
 
The WBC consists of what? 100 members? They&#039;re going to take over america!!! Hilarious. Surely there are bigger fish to fry. And I&#039;m sure anonymouse would support any national legislation banning anything they deem morally unacceptable.  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;We recognize you as serious opponents, and do not expect our campaign to terminate in a short period of time. Attrition is our weapon, and we will waste no time, money, effort, and enjoyment, in tearing your resolve into pieces, as with exposing the incongruity of your distorted faith.&quot; </p>
<p>The WBC consists of what? 100 members? They&#039;re going to take over america!!! Hilarious. Surely there are bigger fish to fry. And I&#039;m sure anonymouse would support any national legislation banning anything they deem morally unacceptable.  </p>
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		<title>By: @nullvoid9</title>
		<link>http://c4ss.org/content/15457/comment-page-1#comment-156149</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Dec 2012 14:14:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In honesty, since I am aware of Anonymous&#039;s own past, I do wonder that. I do think doxing them is overboard, but the tactic would not be overboard in regards an actual fascist group. But, even then, caution. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In honesty, since I am aware of Anonymous&#039;s own past, I do wonder that. I do think doxing them is overboard, but the tactic would not be overboard in regards an actual fascist group. But, even then, caution. </p>
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		<title>By: Dave Hummels</title>
		<link>http://c4ss.org/content/15457/comment-page-1#comment-156142</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave Hummels]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Dec 2012 05:50:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[First, thanks to all those who commented on my article.  I just started contributing to C4SS, so I appreciate any constructive criticism that may help me to become a better writer and political analyst. 
 
I expected that putting WBC under the fascist umbrella might raise some eyebrows.  Indeed, I struggled with how to categorize them.  While working on the article, I even had in mind George Orwell&#039;s essay &quot;What is Fascism&quot; (1944).  In the essay he stated, &quot;By &#8216;Fascism&#8217; they mean, roughly speaking, something cruel, unscrupulous, arrogant, obscurantist, anti-liberal and anti-working-class. Except for the relatively small number of Fascist sympathizers, almost any English person would accept &#8216;bully&#8217; as a synonym for &#8216;Fascist&#8217;. That is about as near to a definition as this much-abused word has come.&quot;  So yes, I know that &quot;fascist&quot; is an overused epithet, particularly among leftists.  But in the end, I opted to use the word.    
 
The dictionary I have in front of me at the moment (Webster&#039;s Dictionary, published by Harper Collins, 2003) defines fascism as an &quot;authoritarian political system opposed to democracy and liberalism&quot; (p. 177).  Granted, dictionary definitions don&#039;t always do complex political theories justice.  If we were to use this definition, however, WBC starts to look fairly fascistic.  I don&#039;t think there is any doubt that they are authoritarian and opposed to liberalism and democracy.   
 
Fascists also typically need an enemy or list of enemies that they believe are corrupting the nation.  The Nazi&#039;s focused on Jews, of course.  Golden Dawn in Greece focuses on immigrants.  WBC is obviously obsessed with homosexuals.  According to their past statements and protest actions, they also hate Jews, Hindus, Muslims, the Chinese and Barrack Obama.       
 
As James Tuttle suggested, I certainly recognize a difference between WBC and the Nazi&#039;s or Mussolini&#039;s Black Shirts.  One of the objections I&#039;d like to address is the fact that WBC does not support &quot;revivalist ultra-nationalism,&quot; as Michael called it.  Well, it&#039;s certainly true that WBC is very much against the United States Government and it&#039;s &quot;fag enabling&quot; policies, as they would put it.  Does this mean they would not be belligerent nationalists if the American state&#039;s policies were virulently homophobic (ie. supportive of the death penalty for homosexuals, like the WBC) and hostile to any religion that was not an ultra-conservative version of Christianity?  Based on what I have read about WBC, I don&#039;t think they&#039;d be the least bit anti-government if this was the case.  What would WBC&#039;s ideal nation-state look like?  Well, I&#039;m guessing it would be something like a Christian version of Iran or maybe Afghanistan under Taliban rule.  And I think the ideology of these governments could be described as a theocratic variant of fascism.  
 
So, keeping these ideas in mind, I decided to but WBC under the neo-fascist banner with neo-Nazi&#039;s, the KKK, and others.  But the term hate group works just as well, and for historical reasons, may have been a better choice.  Good libertarians can agree to disagree on terminology in this case, but I hope you can agree with me on the more important point: we must be prepared to confront (not just ignore) these kinds of people before their movement&#039;s get stronger. 
 
Thanks again! ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, thanks to all those who commented on my article.  I just started contributing to C4SS, so I appreciate any constructive criticism that may help me to become a better writer and political analyst. </p>
<p>I expected that putting WBC under the fascist umbrella might raise some eyebrows.  Indeed, I struggled with how to categorize them.  While working on the article, I even had in mind George Orwell&#039;s essay &quot;What is Fascism&quot; (1944).  In the essay he stated, &quot;By &lsquo;Fascism&rsquo; they mean, roughly speaking, something cruel, unscrupulous, arrogant, obscurantist, anti-liberal and anti-working-class. Except for the relatively small number of Fascist sympathizers, almost any English person would accept &lsquo;bully&rsquo; as a synonym for &lsquo;Fascist&rsquo;. That is about as near to a definition as this much-abused word has come.&quot;  So yes, I know that &quot;fascist&quot; is an overused epithet, particularly among leftists.  But in the end, I opted to use the word.    </p>
<p>The dictionary I have in front of me at the moment (Webster&#039;s Dictionary, published by Harper Collins, 2003) defines fascism as an &quot;authoritarian political system opposed to democracy and liberalism&quot; (p. 177).  Granted, dictionary definitions don&#039;t always do complex political theories justice.  If we were to use this definition, however, WBC starts to look fairly fascistic.  I don&#039;t think there is any doubt that they are authoritarian and opposed to liberalism and democracy.   </p>
<p>Fascists also typically need an enemy or list of enemies that they believe are corrupting the nation.  The Nazi&#039;s focused on Jews, of course.  Golden Dawn in Greece focuses on immigrants.  WBC is obviously obsessed with homosexuals.  According to their past statements and protest actions, they also hate Jews, Hindus, Muslims, the Chinese and Barrack Obama.       </p>
<p>As James Tuttle suggested, I certainly recognize a difference between WBC and the Nazi&#039;s or Mussolini&#039;s Black Shirts.  One of the objections I&#039;d like to address is the fact that WBC does not support &quot;revivalist ultra-nationalism,&quot; as Michael called it.  Well, it&#039;s certainly true that WBC is very much against the United States Government and it&#039;s &quot;fag enabling&quot; policies, as they would put it.  Does this mean they would not be belligerent nationalists if the American state&#039;s policies were virulently homophobic (ie. supportive of the death penalty for homosexuals, like the WBC) and hostile to any religion that was not an ultra-conservative version of Christianity?  Based on what I have read about WBC, I don&#039;t think they&#039;d be the least bit anti-government if this was the case.  What would WBC&#039;s ideal nation-state look like?  Well, I&#039;m guessing it would be something like a Christian version of Iran or maybe Afghanistan under Taliban rule.  And I think the ideology of these governments could be described as a theocratic variant of fascism.  </p>
<p>So, keeping these ideas in mind, I decided to but WBC under the neo-fascist banner with neo-Nazi&#039;s, the KKK, and others.  But the term hate group works just as well, and for historical reasons, may have been a better choice.  Good libertarians can agree to disagree on terminology in this case, but I hope you can agree with me on the more important point: we must be prepared to confront (not just ignore) these kinds of people before their movement&#039;s get stronger. </p>
<p>Thanks again! </p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Dec 2012 04:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Probably true, but &quot;fascist&quot; is used as hyperbole much too often in my opinion. There are other things to call people we don&#039;t like besides that, and shouldn&#039;t when they don&#039;t qualify.  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Probably true, but &quot;fascist&quot; is used as hyperbole much too often in my opinion. There are other things to call people we don&#039;t like besides that, and shouldn&#039;t when they don&#039;t qualify.  </p>
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		<title>By: kuro</title>
		<link>http://c4ss.org/content/15457/comment-page-1#comment-156140</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kuro]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Dec 2012 00:42:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[they&#039;re unable to pass laws because their influence is suppressed by community actions like the ones mentioned in the article.  
 
As the article states, those groups should be confronted. To quote Karl Popper &quot;we should...claim, in the name of tolerance, the right not to tolerate the intolerant&quot;. 
 
But yeah, totally. Anonymous are fascists. Go with that ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>they&#039;re unable to pass laws because their influence is suppressed by community actions like the ones mentioned in the article.  </p>
<p>As the article states, those groups should be confronted. To quote Karl Popper &quot;we should&#8230;claim, in the name of tolerance, the right not to tolerate the intolerant&quot;. </p>
<p>But yeah, totally. Anonymous are fascists. Go with that </p>
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		<title>By: James_Tuttle</title>
		<link>http://c4ss.org/content/15457/comment-page-1#comment-156139</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[James_Tuttle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2012 22:32:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t think Dave is saying WBC are &quot;fascists&quot;, technically, as in comparable to Mussolini&#039;s PNF, Hitler&#039;s NSDAP or the modern Greek Golden Dawn.  
 
Merely that the tactics/strategy being used against WBC by Anonymous are an effective, scalable and important part in a needed, vigilant fight against fascism in general.  
My recent post &lt;a href=&quot;http://alliancejournal.tumblr.com/post/32358377550&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Star Fraction - Introduction to the American Edition&lt;/a&gt; ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#039;t think Dave is saying WBC are &quot;fascists&quot;, technically, as in comparable to Mussolini&#039;s PNF, Hitler&#039;s NSDAP or the modern Greek Golden Dawn.  </p>
<p>Merely that the tactics/strategy being used against WBC by Anonymous are an effective, scalable and important part in a needed, vigilant fight against fascism in general.<br />
My recent post <a href="http://alliancejournal.tumblr.com/post/32358377550" rel="nofollow">The Star Fraction &#8211; Introduction to the American Edition</a> </p>
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		<title>By: j stafford lynch</title>
		<link>http://c4ss.org/content/15457/comment-page-1#comment-156138</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2012 22:20:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i&#039;m not aware of WBC passing laws,physically hurting any one,and they are a private group that nobody listens to.Sure they are scum for picketing funerals,but to go after them like this is way overboard,and makes me wonder who the real fascist is]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#039;m not aware of WBC passing laws,physically hurting any one,and they are a private group that nobody listens to.Sure they are scum for picketing funerals,but to go after them like this is way overboard,and makes me wonder who the real fascist is</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2012 19:54:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, fascism is &quot;revivalist ultra-nationalism&quot; according to most scholars-West Boro hardly fits that. It&#039;s a term which is over-used on the left, and should be reserved for those groups fitting that description. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, fascism is &quot;revivalist ultra-nationalism&quot; according to most scholars-West Boro hardly fits that. It&#039;s a term which is over-used on the left, and should be reserved for those groups fitting that description. </p>
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