And about Saudi Arabia, the United States military presence (sea, air, land) is for training and sustaining a regime that can act as another proxy enforcer in its oil and imperial schemes. No matter how much we hear about how "backwards" the country is, its rulers are kept in place with US military aid; but the United States government has never funded right-wing forces that protect their mutual exploitation interests before. Ever. And you say, "We should still have the Navy patrol the area, but a ground pressence is no longer necessary," but it absolutely is to maintain the regime there. You can't be a half-hearted imperialist when there are so many brown people that still think they have a personal entitlement to benefit from the resources in their own "countries."

There are no Uzbek, Tajik and Pashtun areas of Afghanistan, just interpenetration which varies with single valleys and altitude at least as much as horizontally. Also, there is functional/class separation, with the ethnically more distinct (Persian as opposed to Turkic) Tajiks filling the roles of settled peasant farmers while the others, historically, have also been rulers and/or herdsmen – so geographical separation would not work because of interdependence, even though that was often exploitative. Something similar applies to Kurdistan with regard to the Armenians, only the Kurds have been past beneficiaries of and participants in Armenian genocide; that should not be rewarded. Egypt would neither want nor gain from Gaza alone, as that outpost only makes sense as a stepping stone to something more (the whole area was often a corridor between powers in Egypt and Syria/Asia Minor, even in the 19th century and the First World War). No Palestinian or any other state is viable on less that the whole of current Israel north of the desert (say, Beersheba to the southern end of the Dead Sea); it really is “this town ain’t big enough for both of us”. And the Hashemites know what happened with a larger kingdom last time, and that such a thing can only be held together as an empire by a core insider/elite group.

Oh, and I know perfectly well what Planetaryjim meant and how he put it – and what it says about him, both about his wilful ignorance and about his malignity; he is himself an instance of what he loathes.

As to the matter at hand, here is what I propose:

There needs to be a peace conference to redraw borders. The Uzbek and Tajik areas of Afghanistan should go to Uzbekistgan and Tajikistan. The Pashtun area should go to Pakistan, since they have been making progress on this front. Baluchistan should become a country and get parts of Pakistan and Iran. Iran should get Shia Iraq. Kurdistan should become a country with territory from Iraq, Iran and Turkey. Gaza should go Egypt and parts of the West Bank and Arab northern Israel should either be a Palestinian state or be ceded to a newly unified Syrian kingdom under the Hashemite Dynasty (which will also include Lebanon, Jordan and Syria and western Iraq.

The final piece of the puzzle is to get the Heck out of Saudi. We should still have the Navy patrol the area, but a ground pressence is no longer necessary.

The fact of the matter is, the defence of claiming he had made an honest mistake is not open to him – although I quite honestly cannot see how anyone can take that quotation from me as indicating “enthusiasm and eagerness” rather than describing how things work, even taken out of context as it is (e.g. the context of “…when they are willing and able to use suitable methods…” [emphasis added]). I had corrected his false statements, so in repeating them he was doing so in the full knowledge that they had been refuted. It is not arrogant of me to call it as I see it, nor is it evil to warn others – here, to warn others not to be deceived by Planetaryjim.

Claiming that calling him a liar is arrogant and evil – that is itself a lie, since: he knows he is a liar since he has been caught in lying and told about it; calling exposing that arrogant and evil is to give a free pass to lying, so it is in fact worthy; and, since it is untrue that calling him a liar is arrogant and evil, and since he knows that lying is despicable (or he would not be indignant at the charge), he knows that liars cannot justly object to being called such: so he knows the charge is true and his objection false, which makes that objection a lie piled on past lies.

His last paragraph condemns only himself, for it marks him by his conduct. His repeating such slurs does not make me or anybody else guilty of them. Although why he should condemn someone’s ancestors for supporting long gone Hanoverians, when in fact they did not, is quite beyond me (or, if he supposes I support them, how he could read retroactive blood guilt onto my ancestors from that even if I did, let alone from the mere unsubstantiated accusation – he has as much or as little basis for supposing I endorse any of the other historical cases I gave by way of illustration).

Emphasis in the original, just above. It reads like enthusiasm and eagerness, to me. To say that I was mistaken in supposing that you look forward to every incident of British blood shedding is one thing. To say that I'm lying is quite arrogant and evil.

Fuck you, you vicious, British, authoritarian, evil monster. Fuck yourself, and fuck all the redcoats, all the sycophants for the Hanoverian usurpation, and all of your ancestors, you disgusting shit.

“…I’m pointing out, rhetorically, that the things you eagerly enthuse about happening to my ancestors are disgusting, to you, only when someone points out that the state can do them to you, too”.

This is a lie. I never, not nowhere, not nohow, enthused about any such thing at all, let alone eagerly. He made it up.

“Of course you proposed it. You eagerly asserted that Hell or Connaught was the way for the state to triumph against insurgents.”

Codswallop. There was nothing eager about it. It is indeed a way for them to do it – but it is so self-evidently a bad thing that only a one-eyed obsessive can read “proposing” and “eagerly” into it rather than taking it as a warning. Ask Kevin Carson – I’ve pointed out similar things about repressive tactics to him long before this.

“You insisted that it was just and good”.

This is also a lie. I never did any such thing – he pretended that that was where I was coming from, with no basis whatsoever.

“You’ve made it clear that you love everything British and imperialistic from their units of measure down to the most recent slaughter of children by British forces”.

He is reading that into something I pointed out elsewhere, that something he quoted was US centric. He shouldn’t read an argument against an arrogant US mnemonic as being pro-British; it simply doesn’t support that. See below for the mnemonics and explanations.

‘Cromwell did not remain “protector” of England’.

He did, actually, even dying in bed while he was Lord Protector.

“Ireland was not pacified, even in the same century as Hell or Connaught – as James II illustrated just a few decades later”.

Er… his history is off. Pacification succeeded, in the half century or so after James II, using a range of techniques including the ones I mentioned. More trouble happened later, of course, but that doesn’t mean that that didn’t work then.

“I don’t care about the Falkland Islanders, and don’t admire Lawrence for having ancestors who stole them”.

He made that last part up. My grandfather lived and worked there as an itinerant school teacher, just over a century ago. As it happens the islands never were stolen by the British, but rather they evicted the pirates who had taken over an Argentinian penal settlement (which had been established in defiance of prior British claims) and then the vacant islands were resettled to stop fresh pirates arriving; the pirates stole them, if anyone did – but in any case, long before my grandfather’s time.

“I don’t care what you want, and will continue to mock you and oppose your hateful imperialistic views however you choose to express them”.

He made that up.

“I want you to resent everything I say about you and your ideas, for all time”.

I resent the lies about me and about what my ideas are. The ideas he made up may well be as bad as he claims – but he lies when he claims they are mine.

“If you didn’t want to be unpleasant toward me, you would not have attacked me for explaining my calculation of the mercury weight using a mnemonic common to the location where the mercury was found”.

I never attacked him; he is making that up. Rather, I pointed out the sheer US centric arrogance contained in the mnemonic he quoted, but I never blamed him for the mnemonic. It went “A pint’s a pound/The world around”. Certainly, that does apply in the USA – but it is not a simple matter of being “a mnemonic common to the location where the mercury was found”. It actually claims to be world wide which, as I pointed out, is codswallop. Imperial measures (as they are called) are different. It was quite easy to refute the arrogance of the US mnemonic (I wasn’t in any sense attacking Planetaryjim), by providing the British mnemonic: “A pint of water/Weighs a pound and a quarter”. Note that this mnemonic does not assert universality, and is protected from falsification by being common to a location – a defence that he misrepresents as being available to the US mnemonic.

“But you vicious filthy [slur deleted] British imperialists attack everyone and everything in the world, you steal land everywhere you go, you [slur deleted] stole the Elgin marbles and million other artifacts, you rape and pillage and murder, and you don’t understand why everyone in the world resents you, hates you, wants to see you bleed and cry”.

This appears to be projection. In passing, I will mention that the Elgin Marbles were bought and paid for, and received from those in possession at the time. Nobody else has a better claim to them – the Athenians who made them are long gone and anyway did so with funds defrauded from the Delian League, and today’s Greeks are no more closely connected to the ownership as understood by the Greeks of that era than just about anybody else in Christendom (which replaced the pagans). To the pagan Greeks of that era, they belonged to the gods, not to the Greeks.

Of course you proposed it. You eagerly asserted that Hell or Connaught was the way for the state to triumph against insurgents. You insisted that it was just and good. Now, when someone has called you on your pro-British-imperialist evil, you pretend that you were warning about it. You've made it clear that you love everything British and imperialistic from their units of measure down to the most recent slaughter of children by British forces.

I don't find your maleness to be very manly. You seem like a baby killer. Not a manly nor a courageous activity, at all.

Cromwell did not remain "protector" of England. There is no Cromwell heir on the throne now. Ireland was not pacified, even in the same century as Hell or Connaught – as James II illustrated just a few decades later. Ireland still isn't pacified to the British occupation. But British scum like to mock the "troubles" and pretend they aren't of any consequence.

I don't care about the Falkland Islanders, and don't admire Lawrence for having ancestors who stole them. I'm rather glad that many British sailors were sent to their graves trying to fight the Argentine navy. More dead British are more good British.

You are British, Lawrence, just like TE Lawrence before you. I don't care what you want, and will continue to mock you and oppose your hateful imperialistic views however you choose to express them. I want you to resent everything I say about you and your ideas, for all time.

If you didn't want to be unpleasant toward me, you would not have attacked me for explaining my calculation of the mercury weight using a mnemonic common to the location where the mercury was found. But you vicious filthy fucking British imperialists attack everyone and everything in the world, you steal land everywhere you go, you fuckers stole the Elgin marbles and million other artifacts, you rape and pillage and murder, and you don't understand why everyone in the world resents you, hates you, wants to see you bleed and cry.

Which is kind of sad, in the sense that moronic behavior can produce a disappointed look.

All British soldiers in foreign countries should be sent home. Either voluntarily by the British government, or in body bags by the service to the world provided by freedom fighters in occupied countries. Every British embassy should be closed, and every British company bankrupted. Again, either voluntarily, or by compulsion. There is no limit to the defensive and retaliatory force that is justified in these cases. The British are an evil empire, evil colonialists, evil butchers, evil tyrants, evil thieves, vicious, violent, and fraudulent.

If every British slave were freed, if every British politician killed, if every British bureau-rat laid end to end, it would be the best thing that could happen in the world.

Technologies have changed quite a bit since Alexander’s time, and since the vile, despicable, spit-worthy British assaulted human freedom in various Afghan wars of decades and centuries gone by.

Hell or Connaught does not work, and is an evil, violent, brutal, despicable, hateful policy. PM Lawrence is a nasty authoritarian shithead for proposing it. Killing the Irish or sending them to Connaught did not pacify Ireland, did not keep Cromwell on the throne, did not prevent the restoration of Charles II, and did not make the empire last a single day longer. It did kill many men, women, and children, and PM Lawrence should be forced personally to crawl over broken glass on her hands and knees to the heirs and descendants of every person killed by that policy to apologise in person, as an act of contrition for such a disgusting policy pronouncement.

How many of your family members should we send to hell, PM Lawrence, you despicable shit? How many times should British redcoats rape you before you come to grips with the idiocy of your disgusting authoritarianism? I suggest we find out.

I suggest we bomb your family home, repeatedly, from the air, by Predator drone, and follow your family members around to kill them, individually. How would you like that you vile bag of scum?