Comments on: The Truth About Somalia And Anarchy

By: Kratoklastes

Kratoklastes — Tue, 10 Jun 2014 21:46:06 +0000

^This. This is why the non-porn bits of the internet exist.

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By: Ali

Ali — Fri, 31 May 2013 00:43:20 +0000

No all of Somalia is the same where are you talking about north, east, south??
From where i'm from anarchy has prevailed greatly with the same tribes living in the same area and having religion unite people not by force but by their own will which makes it peaceful. The main problem if you asked me about Las Caanod is there is no tax, therefore there is no development in the city and volunteering aid is rare. There are also no jobs everyone east, sleeps, and shits with free trade and private police. Las Caanod can be quite boring at times as there are nothing new if no one does nothing the city can remain stale for years and you won't even realise it until you look at the calender. Las Caanod has free electricity and telecommunications with internet service that's is really great and what is so funny is its at free will voluntary no told these self-established Somali based companies come to this free city and provide coverage for these people.
Then again this is the north and not the only anarchy city of state in Somalia. The major problem is we need people to go and live in Somalia and see shit for real. If a foreigner can to Las Caanod people would be intrigued as Danish water companies came several times and American to improve the cities water supply network. Especially i would say the district towns is the perfect example of anarchy. Somaliland claims they have control over Sool, Sanag, and Cayn but its lies you could go there now and realise the truth.

By: Ali

Ali — Fri, 31 May 2013 00:26:28 +0000

What you fail to understand is the judges are the community of that tribe like jury but a large one where everyone has a say in it depending on how big the family and sub clans are.

By: Ali

Ali — Fri, 31 May 2013 00:24:14 +0000

You got it all wrong the Xeer is tribal based thing there are no rulings there are no troops its respectful thing. The same sort of system applied in Scotland 6th century. You don't understand Somalian society.

By: Rad Geek

Rad Geek — Tue, 12 Mar 2013 15:10:47 +0000

true anarchy', defined as 'free citizens cooperating without a government' is always subject to breaking down the way Somalia has . . .

. . . Maybe so. In this world hopes sometimes fail and things fall apart. But I notice that Somalia had a government immediately before things "broke down" into civil war, and that the present conditions of the civil war seem to have a lot to do with the concerted actions of several different governments, including at least one directly claiming the right to rule Somalia. So why is Somalia an illustration of the propensity of anarchy to break down into civil war? It seems rather like an illustration of the propensity of government to break down into civil war, since that is, you know, what happened, and what sustains conditions as they are.

By: Emerson

Emerson — Tue, 12 Mar 2013 04:03:08 +0000

Somalia is in what is thought of as anarchy by most citizens. It also illustrates what happens when 'no effective government' is combined with 'lots of groups with weapons'. 'true anarchy', defined as 'free citizens cooperating without a government' is always subject to breaking down the way Somalia has as long as some armed groups are willing to ignore cooperation in favor of bullying.

That is why we need governments which are allowed to have and enforce a monopoly on deadly force!

It is a sad effect of sinful humanity.

By: David Abrams

David Abrams — Sun, 06 May 2012 09:22:52 +0000

SEC investigated Steve Cohen about insider trading but didn't find anything so far.

By: Charmander

Charmander — Sat, 25 Feb 2012 19:52:29 +0000

"but to use Somalia as an example to prove that a society without government CANNOT be peaceful because government is necessary to keep the peace."

My thought exactly. I think this is potentially refutable by the anarchist, though. The ones who recognize that people must value liberty for it to work are consistent; simply trying to dismantle a state against those who support it is doomed to fail. Now, I don't think that the majority of people will ever find anarchy desirable, but from an anarchist's point of view it at least makes sense.

By: truthseeker

truthseeker — Fri, 27 May 2011 01:31:42 +0000

"There are very few actual Somali pirates. Some of the clans have been patrolling their shores for the last few decades. They object to foreign ships dumping their bilge or dumping toxic waste in their waters, and they have also objected to fishing in their territorial waters. A small number of these efforts have turned to demanding fees and ransoms for those in their clan's waters – fees which any other national group is free to charge, of course. Try moving pharmaceuticals through USA territorial waters and see how fast you are boarded by pirates demanding your cargo, putting you in a cage, and demanding extortionate fees for ransom."
Supposed learnedness is useless is if you put it to serve one agenda and ignore reality. You have just excused piracy. Pure equivocation. The fact that pirates violently, forcibly, randomly, arbitrarily, and without any prior notification violate property rights of passing ships should disturb any observer, particularly if they hold anarchist views. The fact that you virtually endorse such behaviour by falsely equivocating it with the behaviour of nation states says much about the views you hold. Views that belong behind a desk, not on the real world where hundreds of people are victim to your "very few actual Somali pirates". Pure equivocation, again.

By: Michael Bindner

Michael Bindner — Mon, 19 Oct 2009 14:59:08 +0000

I am very disappointed with the Hanovarians – not because of their power but because they read whatever is put before them – even the Tory claptrap about restricting basic rights. Mrs. Mountbatten is royal in name only. None of my Tudor or Plantagenet ancestors would have cooperated with such bullshit.

I’m all for bringing the troops home and letting them get real jobs, but to do the world must first adopt mutualism or something akin to it. Oddly, multinational corporations can be the agent of this change if only their unions insist on having the ability to control the operation and then behave like success is about profit, not about job protection. Extending worker ownership to overseas subsidiaries will change those markets and lead to civil society as the workers, having had basic needs met, will not longer cooperate with tyranny. When no one cooperates with tyranny, the military can be hollowed out until its not there any more. Demilitarization abroad and mutualism at home are the only way to ending government.